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The Pay Per Call Opportunity Explained with
Marc Barach Chief Marketing Officer, Ingenio, Inc.

  August 11, 2006

  Ingenio Pay Per Call Opportunity

Can calls improve your search marketing ROI better than clicks can? How does Pay Per Call work, and what kind of impact is it making on businesses today? Marc Barach, chief marketing officer of Pay-per-call pioneer, Ingenio, will discuss the ins and outs of this search-based ad model, and highlight how you can best take advantage.

 

Pay Per Call Explained

This segment focuses on defining Pay Per Call advertising, how it works and what the opportunity is.

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Pay Per Call: Who is Using it?

This segment will cover the different kinds of businesses using Pay Per Call and the results they are seeing.

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Pay Per Call and Click Fraud

Click fraud is a growing concern among paid search advertisers, especially smaller businesses who don’t have the deep pockets to weather click fraud scams. Pay Per Call has emerged as a way to advertise online, without click fraud risk.

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Marc Barach joined Ingenio in 2002, bringing to the company a 20-year career in consumer services, technology and Internet marketing and served as a speaker on the SES San Jose 2006 panel titled, "Search & Phone Calls".

The Pay Per Call Opportunity Explained with Marc Barach Chief Marketing Officer, Ingenio, Inc.

What is Pay per Call and why may it be more beneficial for small businesses than Pay per Click? In the 11th August 2006 edition of e marketing talk show, Cindy Turrietta and Brooke Schumacher talked about this fast moving young industry with Marc Barach of Ingenio. Marc brought 20 years of experience in the consumer services, technology and internet marketing industry to Ingenio and gave a very informative talk at SES 2006 in San Jose.


Pay Per Call Explained

In the first segment Marc talked about what is Pay per Call and how it works. Even though there are 70 to 80 million internet users in the US, less than 2% of all US businesses advertise online. The total advertising spend on the Internet was 11 billion dollars in 2005; whereas the total advertising spend in the US during the same year was 270 billion dollars. So why are a large number of businesses avoiding online advertising?

Marc explained that about 70% of US businesses do not have a website, or if they do have a website it is non transactional i.e. there online ad is like a brochure rather than a proper website. Many small businesses don’t have the marketing budget that would allow them to optimize or to create a really nice looking website that is going to convert visitors.

Businesses that do have a website could opt for the Pay per Click service offered by Google and Yahoo, but this service does present some problems. It is very hard to track business when using the Pay per Click service. The marketers need to purchase special software to track clicks. There is only an approximately 4% transaction rate for Pay per Clicks i.e. when people click into your website, 4% turn into some kind of transaction and a lot of people just read and click.

Apart from this, the complexity of keyword bidding is a turn off for many businesses, especially small businesses. In order to be an effective pay per click advertiser you need to have 20 or 50 or even 500 different keywords that you bid on and you bid on each keyword separately. Each keyword has a different price and even though Google has tried to streamline the pay per click process, the complexity of keyword bidding is still the number one problem.

These issues led Ingenio to realize that there is this huge opportunity to service this segment of businesses who want to be found online but don’t just want to have a sole choice of buying a click and that is why they created a fast moving young industry called the ‘pay per call’ product. As the name suggests, instead of buying a click to their website the advertiser is able to buy a call to their business from a listing that runs online in response to a specific query that someone does on a search engine. So the advertiser’s ad runs for free and they only pay when their phone rings.

This enables businesses to get potential customers on the phone with their telemarketers or their sales force and really sell to them at a more personal level. Marc pointed out that at the end of the day what businesses really want is to grow. “They don’t really care whether you drive consumers to their website or to their phone. Businesses want good customers coming in at the right price so that they can convert them to business. Almost all businesses are very telephone oriented and are very used to receiving calls, turning those calls into customers and then building long term relationships with them.”

Ingenio hired Jupiter to study this market for them. A key finding of this research was that 85% of businesses, particularly small businesses, know what their close rates are from phone calls that come into their business. This is critical for businesses that have the confidence and knowledge that when someone rings them they can turn that call into a sale. As a result, such businesses prefer to “buy advertising to get that phone to ring” rather than using Pay per Click.


Pay Per Call: Who Is Using It?

In the second segment, Marc talked about how Pay per Call works and who is using it.
Replying to Brooke’s question about how the Pay per Call pricing compares to the Pay per Click pricing, Marc replied that depending on the business category, Pay per Call pricing is the same or lower that the Pay per Click pricing. Pay per Call provides you with “the value of having that consumer in real time talking to you on the phone with the attendant higher close rates. The close rates in this business are generally in the 1 out of 3 range and that compares very favorably with what happens on the web (i.e. the Pay per Click campaigns) where you have a 2% close rate.” The conversion rate of Pay per Call is much higher than the rate for Pay per Click.


Pay per Call has been extremely popular with financial services businesses like insurance, real estate and mortgage loans. Home improvement became a very big category and covered a whole spectrum of activities, like kitchen remodeling, driveway resurfacing and general construction. The travel industry has also been a big user of Pay per Call, especially for complicated travel sales like cruises, vacations and other package vacations etc. which are consultative sales. Real Estate businesses are also seeking Ingenio’s services. Apart from this, some medical businesses are also starting to use Pay per Call. Currently, Ingenio is serving over 1200 different business categories.

One of the things that advertisers do when they sign up is that they set a fixed and recurring time schedule in their system and their ads are only served during the call windows that they specify. For example, if you shut your office at 7 pm sharp and if someone (i.e. the potential customer) does a search at 6:59, finds your company in the listing and calls you at 7:01, Ingenio puts the call through but it is an unbilled call. So you may end up answering the phone or the customer will leave a message but you’ll never need to pay after your call window closes.

Marc went on to give a few more details about how the Pay per Call system works. He informed listeners that Ingenio lists the actual phone numbers of all businesses so that they are visible to the consumers. This system works much better than a click to call button because research has shown that consumers are much more comfortable just dialing phone numbers. In controlled test cases you actually get more consumers calling businesses when they can see the number as opposed to clicking on a click to call button.

Marc explained that “the numbers come from a bank of numbers that Ingenio holds, that we age like fine wine to make sure that they are clean and then are no prior calls coming on them. They sit in a database and when we serve an ad out to one of our partners like AOL- when the consumer is actually doing the search- we append a unique number to that ad that represents the merchant and the partner (e.g. AOL) where it is running. That number sticks with the advertiser and that becomes the tracking mechanism.” This is necessary because Ingenio needs to let AOL know that a call was made to e.g. “Joe the Business Architect” as opposed to a different partner like Infospace, “where when someone were to call the same advertiser we would need to track that separately so that Infospace can know and share in the revenue generator from that call”.

When an advertiser joins Ingenio they get their account, they log in and they can see the call records i.e. they can see all the calls that came in through their Pay per Call listings and whether they were answered, the duration of the call, the phone number of the caller and the repeat call behavior of a given caller. Ingenio charges on the lead and not the call so if the same customer i.e. the same phone number dials back anytime within a 72 hour period, it is considered to be the original lead and is charged only once. In addition to this advertisers get a report e mailed to them at the end of the day that shows all the activity of that day in case they don’t feel like logging in to their account to see it.

At the end of this segment, Cindy questioned Marc about how Pay per Call campaigns are optimized and whether a creative is designed and AB testing is done. Marc told listeners that optimization comes to play in the creative itself and in the offers that are made within the creative. Many of Ingenio’s customers set up multiple listings and multiple ads and then they track each one to get a sense of what is working best for them.


Pay per Click and Click Fraud

Did you know that 14% of click revenue is fraudulent? This figure was released by a company called Outsell (a market research firm) after very in depth research and this actually the smallest figure suggested about the degree of the click fraud going on in the industry. So click fraud is quite rampant and it strikes the very heart of the value proposition you pay where someone has the action of clicking into your website and it some of those clicks are fraudulent it is very discouraging. Click fraud is particularly damaging for small businesses.

Click fraud is what happens when people click on your ad (that appears on the search engine’s results page) without having any intention of doing business with you. They click on your ad to draw down your budget e.g. a competitor might repeatedly click on your ad to draw down your budget and therefore bump you out or waste your money or the crime is committed by affiliate marketers who earn money through these clicks. As a result, they create false clicks to generate revenue for themselves.

Google and Yahoo have been working very hard to develop better fraud detecting algorithms, but it is not fool proof. The recent court cases involving Google and Yahoo has resulted in the industry being much more open about click fraud and are involving the advertiser much more in the solutions around it such as better credit policies, better customer services related to it and better communications etc.

The benefit of Pay per Call is that:

• When you’re talking on the phone it is very easy to detect whether or not the caller had any genuine intention of doing business with you or “a call comes in from some far away place and you can just smell that something was wrong with it”. According to Marc, the main problem with Pay per click is that the advertisers are not able to be engaged with customers in real time. At the end of the month they get a report that shows all the clicks they paid for and that is it.
• Since Ingenio doesn’t bill on every call, the whole concept of drawing down your competitor’s budget goes out the window because of the way we have set up our system and this removes a giant incentive for fraudsters.
• Ingenio has been able to build very strong pattern and fraud detection algorithms from day one since they were well aware of the issue. When Pay per click started 7 to 8 years back they weren’t prepared to deal with these fraud issues. So whereas Pay per click has to play catch up, Pay per call has been able to build strong defenses from the get go.

Marc was very proud to announce that since this Pay per Call product was released 2 years back, there hasn’t been a single incident of problematic fraud. Ingenio’s service department helps advertisers’ tweak their ads to make them more effective.

Pay per Call can benefit search marketing firms and Ad agencies. Ingenio is doing business with almost 50 different interactive agencies (agencies that serve advertisers) at the moment and provides them with the “Agency API” i.e. the Automated Program Interface. This allows an Agency to tap directly into Ingenios system and do it in their application environment. It makes their lives a lot easier because they can do business in the way they like- using a reporting format that their customers are used to. So Ingenio basically provides them with raw data which the agencies then use in their own reports etc.

You can identify a Pay per Call ad because typically, e.g. in the case of AOL, the number one listing on the page comes from Ingenio Pay per Call, and even though it looks kind of similar to a Pay per click, what makes it unique is a little green phone icon and a phone number prominently placed in the listing. If you click on the link on the ad, it opens up a details page about the business that has up to a thousand words of text, coupons, maps, hours when staff is available etc. This page is hosted by Ingenio and the advertisers build this page when they sign up. This page in effect becomes a one page website for many companies. The company is never charged when the consumer clicks on the link. They are only charged when a consumer calls them up.

Marc encouraged listeners to visit Ingenio.com, experiment and find the correct marketing mix. As is the case with most success stories, he happily remembered how when he “used to speak about this idea (i.e. Pay per Call) at conferences e.g. at SES people used to think we are crazy – they thought it was insane, and then we ploughed ahead and launched this product at the end of 2004 and it really took off in 2005”. As a result, in the words of Brooke “we’re not so crazy any more”.

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